As I write, the toll has climbed to over 50,000.

Cheh Zhai Meen says if you have DBS inter­net bank­ing, you can make your con­tri­bu­tions payable to RED CROSS TIDAL WAVES ASIA. Thanks for leav­ing that com­ment.

While it doesn’t seem appro­pri­ate to appor­tion blame in an event such as this, I’m of sim­i­lar sen­ti­ment as Mr Brown when it comes to Sin­ga­pore­ans and their actions (if any) in attempt­ing to ame­lio­rate the suf­fer­ing. Why so slow? Can’t we fly our vaunted med­ical team there first, then help eval­u­ate what needs to be done? Surely there’ll be things to do as soon as you hit the ground, no? Maid agen­cies here can send sacked domes­tic helpers back to Indone­sia faster than you can blink an eye, man! Not good enough, dudes!

(Update: RSAF C-130 with sup­plies despatched to Medan)

Also, you know when the peo­ple in Col­orado dis­cov­ered the mas­sive earth­quake, and mea­sured it as a very big one under the sea off Indone­sia, how come it didn’t occur to their expert brains that tsunamis would more likely than not, ensue? And if it did occur to them, it would’ve occurred to them that it would have ensued on such a dev­as­tat­ing scale that would have prompted them to take ALL POSSIBLE MEANS to con­tact AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE in the region affected.

What do you mean by NO WARNING SYSTEM? Use your blain! Call the State Depart­ment, call con­sulates, you have inter­net? Google! Wah lao! You can put dec­i­mal places on the Richter scale and you can­not make a few sim­ple phone calls?! It’s not as if it hasn’t hap­pened before! Not bloody good enough, dudes!

(Update: From NYT (login required):

…The Pacific cen­ter, oper­ated by the National Oceano­graphic and Atmos­pheric Admin­is­tra­tion, faced two prob­lems in rec­og­niz­ing what was occur­ring in the Indian Ocean and alert­ing poten­tial vic­tims. There is no direct con­nec­tion between an earth­quake mag­ni­tude and a result­ing tsunami. Not all quakes under the ocean lift the ocean floor to dis­place the water needed to cre­ate a tsunami.…
…Dr. McCreery, the Hon­olulu center’s direc­tor, said the ini­tial esti­mate of the earthquake’s mag­ni­tude, 8.0, would have been likely to gen­er­ate a local tsunami.…
)

My World Bank friend, who’s back in Wash­ing­ton tells me news cov­er­age in the US of the dis­as­ter is appalling. It seems this is just some earth­quake and big waves some­where in Asia, and the only thing worth report­ing is how many Amer­i­cans have been vic­tims of the dis­as­ter. Prob­a­bly because hol­i­day­mak­ers in the region are pre­dom­i­nantly Euro­pean and not Amer­i­can, says my World Bank friend, who called me ear­lier very upset that her favourite beach in the world, Raily, is no more, and she doesn’t know what’s become of her friends who live there.

 
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  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/2699627 azzzzzz

    news just in: earth­quake hits japanno imme­di­ate reports of injuries or dam­age from the quake, which occurred around 6:30 p.m. (0930 GMT). No tsunami warn­ing was issued.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/2699627 azzzzzz

    news just in: earth­quake hits japanno imme­di­ate reports of injuries or dam­age from the quake, which occurred around 6:30 p.m. (0930 GMT). No tsunami warn­ing was issued.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4579228 Knightof­Pen­ta­cles

    Okay. Take a deep breath. We are all upset by this ter­ri­ble tragedy. How­ever assign­ing blame is not going to help much. We do the best of what we can and leave the rest in the hands of .

    How­ever I feel com­pelled to throw in my 2 bits in defence of NOAA, which oper­ates the PTWC of out of Hawaii (not Colorado).

    First of all as the name implies, the PTWC cov­ers the Pacific basin, not the Indian ocean. This is the “not my area of respon­si­bil­ity” defence which should be fami­lar to Singaporeans.

    Sec­ondly, the PTWC did what they could by the book. The warn­ings were posted to the Pacific nations under 20 min­utes after the event. The PTWC does not have estab­lished chan­nels of com­mu­ni­ca­tions to this part of the world.

    Thirdly, even if the infor­ma­tion was suc­cess­fully relayed to the rel­e­vant nations (ignor­ing the red­tape you would have to cut through to estab­lish the infor­ma­tion flow). What are the chances the infor­ma­tion would be ver­i­fied by the recip­i­ents and dis­sem­i­nated to the masses before the tsunami hit? We are talk­ing a time­frame of one to two hours max­i­mum here.

    Finally, I remem­ber there was an ear­lier ini­tia­tive to put in tsunami early warn­ing sen­sors for the Indian ocean but the plans got killed due to lack of coop­er­a­tion amongst the nations involved and the high costs (approx US$325,000 each) of the sen­sors involved.

    Rage at the slow­ness of aid to the affected areas, if you must. Or rage at the insu­lar nature of the US news media. How­ever I feel the folks at NOAA/PTWC should not have their feet held over hot coals for this “failure”.

    Dis­clo­sure: I am a fan of the NOAA, espe­cially the National Hur­ri­cane Center.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4579228 Knightof­Pen­ta­cles

    Okay. Take a deep breath. We are all upset by this ter­ri­ble tragedy. How­ever assign­ing blame is not going to help much. We do the best of what we can and leave the rest in the hands of .

    How­ever I feel com­pelled to throw in my 2 bits in defence of NOAA, which oper­ates the PTWC of out of Hawaii (not Colorado).

    First of all as the name implies, the PTWC cov­ers the Pacific basin, not the Indian ocean. This is the “not my area of respon­si­bil­ity” defence which should be fami­lar to Singaporeans.

    Sec­ondly, the PTWC did what they could by the book. The warn­ings were posted to the Pacific nations under 20 min­utes after the event. The PTWC does not have estab­lished chan­nels of com­mu­ni­ca­tions to this part of the world.

    Thirdly, even if the infor­ma­tion was suc­cess­fully relayed to the rel­e­vant nations (ignor­ing the red­tape you would have to cut through to estab­lish the infor­ma­tion flow). What are the chances the infor­ma­tion would be ver­i­fied by the recip­i­ents and dis­sem­i­nated to the masses before the tsunami hit? We are talk­ing a time­frame of one to two hours max­i­mum here.

    Finally, I remem­ber there was an ear­lier ini­tia­tive to put in tsunami early warn­ing sen­sors for the Indian ocean but the plans got killed due to lack of coop­er­a­tion amongst the nations involved and the high costs (approx US$325,000 each) of the sen­sors involved.

    Rage at the slow­ness of aid to the affected areas, if you must. Or rage at the insu­lar nature of the US news media. How­ever I feel the folks at NOAA/PTWC should not have their feet held over hot coals for this “failure”.

    Dis­clo­sure: I am a fan of the NOAA, espe­cially the National Hur­ri­cane Center.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/1700143 Mr Miyagi

    Thanks for the infor­ma­tion. I’ve been edu­cat­ing myself, and should’ve done so before rant­ing. But you know with 55,000 dead so far…

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/1700143 Mr Miyagi

    Thanks for the infor­ma­tion. I’ve been edu­cat­ing myself, and should’ve done so before rant­ing. But you know with 55,000 dead so far…

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/2588087 Jayaxe

    Regard­ing the DBS pay­ment, it requires us to fill in the con­sumer ref­er­ence num­ber (which is usu­ally pro­vided when pay­ing bills).

    Since this is a non-bill pay­ment, DBS actu­ally want its cus­tomer donors to fill in their con­tact num­ber as the ref­er­ence num­ber. For more info, click here.

    I just donated too. Hope it helps.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/2588087 Jayaxe

    Regard­ing the DBS pay­ment, it requires us to fill in the con­sumer ref­er­ence num­ber (which is usu­ally pro­vided when pay­ing bills).

    Since this is a non-bill pay­ment, DBS actu­ally want its cus­tomer donors to fill in their con­tact num­ber as the ref­er­ence num­ber. For more info, click here.

    I just donated too. Hope it helps.

  • Anony­mous

    I agree with you about our, um, “advance” med­ical team, Mr. Miyagi. The baby brother and I dis­cussed this — he’s serv­ing the nation some­way rel­e­vant — chances are they will be help­ing to fish bod­ies out of the water more than any­thing else. Or deal with a pos­si­ble cholera epi­demic. Sucks.

    chain­saw­ield­inun

  • Anony­mous

    I agree with you about our, um, “advance” med­ical team, Mr. Miyagi. The baby brother and I dis­cussed this — he’s serv­ing the nation some­way rel­e­vant — chances are they will be help­ing to fish bod­ies out of the water more than any­thing else. Or deal with a pos­si­ble cholera epi­demic. Sucks.

    chain­saw­ield­inun

  • Anony­mous

    Re: the pathetic cov­er­age of the dis­as­ter in US..

    I feel that it’s just an inkling of the peren­nial race issue. When i logged onto british foot­ball forums, the eng­lish peo­ple were post­ing things like

    It’s snow­ing… And all these peo­ple com­plain­ing about tsunamis? Don’t know how lucky they’ve got it..”

    Very poor attempt at humour. And these are the same peo­ple who got their knick­ers all twisted in a knot when for eg, sta­dium diasters like the Hey­sel in 1985 are brought up. I won­der if this were to hap­pen else­where nearer to them… but i must say i wont wanna wish some­thing like this on any­one, anywhere

    Though i would like to point out not all ang-mohs are like that. Just the sad gits.

    kei­thf from blogdrive

  • Anony­mous

    Re: the pathetic cov­er­age of the dis­as­ter in US..

    I feel that it’s just an inkling of the peren­nial race issue. When i logged onto british foot­ball forums, the eng­lish peo­ple were post­ing things like

    It’s snow­ing… And all these peo­ple com­plain­ing about tsunamis? Don’t know how lucky they’ve got it..”

    Very poor attempt at humour. And these are the same peo­ple who got their knick­ers all twisted in a knot when for eg, sta­dium diasters like the Hey­sel in 1985 are brought up. I won­der if this were to hap­pen else­where nearer to them… but i must say i wont wanna wish some­thing like this on any­one, anywhere

    Though i would like to point out not all ang-mohs are like that. Just the sad gits.

    kei­thf from blogdrive

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4716850 Da Play­boy Bunny

    Ya lor.. 1 hour before Tsunami strike leh.. NOT ENOUGH TIME TO WARN MEH ?!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4716850 Da Play­boy Bunny

    Ya lor.. 1 hour before Tsunami strike leh.. NOT ENOUGH TIME TO WARN MEH ?!

  • Anony­mous

    To Da Play­Boy Bunny:

    In Acheh’s case, they don’t even have the lux­ury of an hour’s notice. Maybe for the coun­tries such as The Mal­dives or Soma­lia, but when you’re near the epic cen­ter of the quake — most don’t have 1–2 hours.

  • Anony­mous

    To Da Play­Boy Bunny:

    In Acheh’s case, they don’t even have the lux­ury of an hour’s notice. Maybe for the coun­tries such as The Mal­dives or Soma­lia, but when you’re near the epic cen­ter of the quake — most don’t have 1–2 hours.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/6009858 Saman­tha

    There are a num­ber of things you’re over­look­ing, which I can under­stand, because yes, the death toll is com­pletely over­whelm­ing and I under­stand your rage at feel­ing help­less, and the sense that this shouldn’t have hap­pened, and how bloody unfair that peo­ple who already had so lit­tle to begin with had to lose every­thing else too, BUT:

    1) Why Sin­ga­pore (and other coun­tries) are not respond­ing as quickly as you’d like:

    One of the most impor­tant things when orga­niz­ing nat­ural dis­as­ter aid/relief efforts is ensur­ing that the right kind of aid is going to the right peo­ple and area. Orga­niz­ing an effort that comes from dozens of coun­tries and that’s sup­posed to reach a dozen coun­tries is a logis­ti­cal nightmare.

    Why is orga­ni­za­tion impor­tant? They’re approx­i­mat­ing the dam­age (in US$) of this dis­as­ter at about US$13 bil­lion. That’s a lot of money. It’s unlikely, or at least very dif­fi­cult, for other coun­tries to be able to donate enough cash to cover all that dam­age. We have to ensure that every dol­lar counts. That every dol­lar goes where it does the most good. It’s not going to help Thai­land to receive food/water relief if what they need most is med­ical relief, and vice versa for other areas.

    2) Why the Earth­quake Cen­ter could not warn people:

    - They didn’t know the extent of the dis­as­ter. Like the arti­cle you linked to (in the NYT) said, tsunamis are not eas­ily detected because a) they aren’t always a def­i­nite result of an under­sea earth­quake, and b) they don’t reach their destruc­tive stage until right before they hit the shore.

    - They didn’t have con­tacts in the affected coun­tries that would’ve believed them. They couldn’t just call a ran­dom per­son in Sri Lanka and tell them “evac­u­ate the coasts, tsunamis headed your way” because they may not have had any­one on hand who could speak the local lan­guages, and really, chances are extremely good that the per­son on the other end of the line would’ve laughed at them and hung up. They didn’t even have enough time to con­tact Thai, Indian and Sri Lankan embassies in the U.S.

    - Can you imag­ine how the guys at the earth­quake cen­ter feel right about now? To know that they had infor­ma­tion that could have saved tens of thou­sands of lives, and they couldn’t do any­thing? Nobody thinks to them­selves “Well, I could make a phone call and save tens of thou­sands of lives, or I could go get a sand­wich for lunch.” They didn’t know the extent, the scope of the dis­as­ter, and they didn’t have the resources on hand to do any­thing about it even if they had known. There is noth­ing you can say about or to them that hasn’t already passed through their minds.

    3) Why media cov­er­age of the dis­as­ter in the US is insular:

    Peo­ple need to have some­thing to relate to, in order to under­stand the full scope of a tragedy. This is why first-hand blog accounts of the tsunamis are so impact­ful. Because you get to know some­one, get to know their grief in a very per­sonal way. That’s part of what the media is try­ing to achieve. They’re try­ing to get peo­ple to think “This could’ve hap­pened to my neigh­bor, to me, to my son.” That’s how you get peo­ple to under­stand on a vis­ceral level.

    This is not to say that the US media is com­pletely altru­is­tic. I’m sure part of the rea­son they want peo­ple to under­stand this on a gut level is because they want to sell more papers/advertising space. And I’m usu­ally full of crit­i­cism about the US media. But there are some­times good rea­sons they do the things they do.

    Just a few ratio­nal thoughts, to try to bring your leg down from that knee-jerk posi­tion. :)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/6009858 Saman­tha

    There are a num­ber of things you’re over­look­ing, which I can under­stand, because yes, the death toll is com­pletely over­whelm­ing and I under­stand your rage at feel­ing help­less, and the sense that this shouldn’t have hap­pened, and how bloody unfair that peo­ple who already had so lit­tle to begin with had to lose every­thing else too, BUT:

    1) Why Sin­ga­pore (and other coun­tries) are not respond­ing as quickly as you’d like:

    One of the most impor­tant things when orga­niz­ing nat­ural dis­as­ter aid/relief efforts is ensur­ing that the right kind of aid is going to the right peo­ple and area. Orga­niz­ing an effort that comes from dozens of coun­tries and that’s sup­posed to reach a dozen coun­tries is a logis­ti­cal nightmare.

    Why is orga­ni­za­tion impor­tant? They’re approx­i­mat­ing the dam­age (in US$) of this dis­as­ter at about US$13 bil­lion. That’s a lot of money. It’s unlikely, or at least very dif­fi­cult, for other coun­tries to be able to donate enough cash to cover all that dam­age. We have to ensure that every dol­lar counts. That every dol­lar goes where it does the most good. It’s not going to help Thai­land to receive food/water relief if what they need most is med­ical relief, and vice versa for other areas.

    2) Why the Earth­quake Cen­ter could not warn people:

    - They didn’t know the extent of the dis­as­ter. Like the arti­cle you linked to (in the NYT) said, tsunamis are not eas­ily detected because a) they aren’t always a def­i­nite result of an under­sea earth­quake, and b) they don’t reach their destruc­tive stage until right before they hit the shore.

    - They didn’t have con­tacts in the affected coun­tries that would’ve believed them. They couldn’t just call a ran­dom per­son in Sri Lanka and tell them “evac­u­ate the coasts, tsunamis headed your way” because they may not have had any­one on hand who could speak the local lan­guages, and really, chances are extremely good that the per­son on the other end of the line would’ve laughed at them and hung up. They didn’t even have enough time to con­tact Thai, Indian and Sri Lankan embassies in the U.S.

    - Can you imag­ine how the guys at the earth­quake cen­ter feel right about now? To know that they had infor­ma­tion that could have saved tens of thou­sands of lives, and they couldn’t do any­thing? Nobody thinks to them­selves “Well, I could make a phone call and save tens of thou­sands of lives, or I could go get a sand­wich for lunch.” They didn’t know the extent, the scope of the dis­as­ter, and they didn’t have the resources on hand to do any­thing about it even if they had known. There is noth­ing you can say about or to them that hasn’t already passed through their minds.

    3) Why media cov­er­age of the dis­as­ter in the US is insular:

    Peo­ple need to have some­thing to relate to, in order to under­stand the full scope of a tragedy. This is why first-hand blog accounts of the tsunamis are so impact­ful. Because you get to know some­one, get to know their grief in a very per­sonal way. That’s part of what the media is try­ing to achieve. They’re try­ing to get peo­ple to think “This could’ve hap­pened to my neigh­bor, to me, to my son.” That’s how you get peo­ple to under­stand on a vis­ceral level.

    This is not to say that the US media is com­pletely altru­is­tic. I’m sure part of the rea­son they want peo­ple to under­stand this on a gut level is because they want to sell more papers/advertising space. And I’m usu­ally full of crit­i­cism about the US media. But there are some­times good rea­sons they do the things they do.

    Just a few ratio­nal thoughts, to try to bring your leg down from that knee-jerk posi­tion. :)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/1700143 Mr Miyagi

    Thank you. My jaw hurts from knee hit­ting it.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/1700143 Mr Miyagi

    Thank you. My jaw hurts from knee hit­ting it.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4579228 Knightof­Pen­ta­cles

    Update:
    Appar­ently Thai­land author­i­ties knew but sup­pressed the tsunami warn­ing.
    http://wizbangblog.com/archives/004637.php
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30989-2004Dec28.html?sub=AR

    Any­body seen the orig­i­nal report sup­pos­edly by _The Nation_?

    Sigh. And the ugly part of human nature is sur­fac­ing. Reports of loot­ing and resource hoard­ing are already com­ing in.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4579228 Knightof­Pen­ta­cles

    Update:
    Appar­ently Thai­land author­i­ties knew but sup­pressed the tsunami warn­ing.
    http://wizbangblog.com/archives/004637.php
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30989-2004Dec28.html?sub=AR

    Any­body seen the orig­i­nal report sup­pos­edly by _The Nation_?

    Sigh. And the ugly part of human nature is sur­fac­ing. Reports of loot­ing and resource hoard­ing are already com­ing in.

  • Anony­mous

    Argh, to think that some would hoard resources when oth­ers are starv­ing and unreach­able. But then again those who are hoard­ing are also doing it to keep alive. I am really pray­ing for these people..

  • Anony­mous

    Argh, to think that some would hoard resources when oth­ers are starv­ing and unreach­able. But then again those who are hoard­ing are also doing it to keep alive. I am really pray­ing for these people..

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